View Full Version : TO HUBERT; Frontline with squares, think about this
Kuniworth
04-14-2004, 11:08 AM
Hey Hubert,
just want you to think about this. Using "squares" instead of hexes can create a very strange looking wedges in the fronts.
Lets say Russia pounce through axis front line and drives a straight(east to west) wedge 4-5 squares long. This wedge will then look very funny and "blocky" eg squares put beside each other in a row. Is it possible to make those wedges more "rounded" or else this will look a bit strange.
This will happen with wedges running west-east. Running northwest-southwest wont be the same trouble.
You're understand what I mean?
Kuniworth
04-14-2004, 11:16 AM
To illustrate;
Imagine a front running north to south and that a wedge have been cut into it, one tile wide running east-to west. It will look funny.
http://www.magesystems.com/magesystems/gallery/images_large/tiles.jpg
Kuniworth
04-14-2004, 11:18 AM
SO my suggestion;
Try to make the front lines edges much more "rounded" than it is today in the screenies.
Kuniworth
04-14-2004, 04:40 PM
anyone?
SeaMonkey
04-14-2004, 04:47 PM
Kuni, think defense in depth or your going to get "Blitzkrieged".
Night
04-14-2004, 05:36 PM
look at this screenshot of Russia and Finland
http://www.battlefront.com/products/sc2/screenshots/pages/finland01.htm
Something I don't understand is if units are in a line north-south, then they have gaps diagnonaly inbetween them. I guess the ZOC will prevent movement inbetween units in a line, but it does appear that front lines going north-south will be staggered insted of straight lines.
I don't think it will be that hard to understand once we can actually move them.
The key is if units can move diagonally through the ZOC, and if attacks can be made diagonally. Additionally will there be extra costs.
North/south line can still be straight as long as ZOC prevents a unit from moving between the two units on the diagonal.
Surrounding cities is a whole another story.
Edit:
Read this topic:
I dont understand two things. :( Please help
It answers some of our questions, as well as shows a couple diagrams.
[ April 14, 2004, 07:11 PM: Message edited by: KDG ]
zappsweden
04-14-2004, 08:29 PM
I must say, I like hexagons better. In an American Civil War game, Squares could be better. They allow maneuvers in a lot of ways. However, in WW1 and WW2 whre there are front lines I do not think it will be good. Unless there are ZOC exception rules, you gotta have a double line when defending on a north-south hence twice as many defenders as when u are defending on a northwest-southeast front.
[ April 14, 2004, 05:32 PM: Message edited by: zappsweden ]
Kuniworth
04-14-2004, 08:39 PM
Guys thx for the replies. But do you agree that bulges or wedges will look funny?
Did you say Battle of the Bulge?
I'm hoping two units side by side exert a ZOC that keeps units from moving between them, thus no need for a double line.
Hubert Cater
04-14-2004, 10:21 PM
This is the plan ;)
Alexanderthe_OK
04-14-2004, 10:28 PM
Squares!! - Avalon Hill decided 20 years ago that squares wouldnt work for a board game. Damn - I had been looking forward to SC2. Hopefully there will be a SC3 that will use hexes
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