Is anyone enjoying TCP/IP?

[Ali-Baba]

Once more I bring this back because I cant figure what's going on with either my PC/connection or CMSF net code. The last time I joined a game I had a 180ms ping to the host and it took minutes for my units to carry out simple orders like move or target. It was a medium sized scenario. I have a DSL connection but no matter who is the host I always have huge lag problems. Anyone with better experiences?

[Wodka]

I also had serious lags... .
I still can`t understand why there is no option to play WEGO at TCP/IP, that would solve all problems.

[thelmia]

OK, here's how you fix this:

1. The host MUST wait for the guest to finish setting up before hitting the ready button.

2. The host should take at least a minute before hitting the ready button to let the two sides sync up.

3. I have a crash bug when the guest targets artillery in setup, so I don't do it.

This is a bug, I've spammed the tech forum with it, but I have worked around it with the above steps.

[Zemke]

The fix would be to have WEGO using TCIP, that is the fix and more realistic too.

[Ali-Baba]

Originally posted by thelmia:
OK, here's how you fix this:

1. The host MUST wait for the guest to finish setting up before hitting the ready button.

2. The host should take at least a minute before hitting the ready button to let the two sides sync up.

3. I have a crash bug when the guest targets artillery in setup, so I don't do it.

This is a bug, I've spammed the tech forum with it, but I have worked around it with the above steps. Thanks for the help but I'm pretty sure I tried that already. Clicked ready really quick as guest and it was above a minute before the host was ready. Same results :(

I think BFC said there is no problem with their multiplayer testing but seems like people still cant play smoothly. Unfortunately for some of us, head to head is the only way to really enjoy the game.

[ September 27, 2007, 05:26 AM: Message edited by: Ali-Baba ]

[JSB]

I tried these tips in a very small scenario (Al Huqf) and was then able to play without any problem, and I found it really fun!

There is still something weird happening when dismounting units during the setup phase (a part of the unit being stucked in the vehicle, the other floating without any goal like zombies).

I haven't tried to play large scenarios yet, so I can't tell if it always works.

[Ali-Baba]

Al Huqf is the only battle I have played almost flawlessly so far. All the others, besides the passenger bugs etc, were like WEGO in RealTime only you had to wait more than one minute to see the ordered unit responding.

[thelmia]

Have the guest take their time before hitting ready? I think it's a sync issue, and just taking a long time in setup may help. Map size seems to be the biggest variable. On big maps, wait longer. I've even seen people 'catch up' and orders losing their delay.

This is a problem for a lot of people. It's a pity that it's not been mentioned very often.

[JSB]

Originally posted by thelmia:
This is a problem for a lot of people. It's a pity that it's not been mentioned very often. I totally agree.

[redbear]

but there is a bug in there have to be fixed

[thewood]

Originally posted by Wodka:
I also had serious lags... .
I still can`t understand why there is no option to play WEGO at TCP/IP, that would solve all problems. Its probably a sign of how many people are playing RT TCP right now.

[aka_tom_w]

v1.04 comes out monday, (that's not news now)

If that patch does not improve the TCP situation, bump this thread and request extensive beta testing of v1.05 in TCP.
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Just a suggestion.
;)

[Ali-Baba]

There was no mentioning of TCP testing for any of the patches. I doubt 1.04 will be different. Guess TCPers are a minority. But how long can you play with the AI?? Its only purpose is to train for the real thing, vs a human opponent. I refuse to play PBEM now that CMSF is RT. Hope they make it work sooner or later :rolleyes:

[z1812]

Hi All,

I am having a great time with online play. I try to play smaller scenarios with fewer units and a short time limit. Seems to work for me.

The game is very, very good.

RegardsJohn

[skelley]

With RT only in TCIP you can only play small battles. Not having wego in TCIP was a huge mistake on the part of BFC. I hope for the WWII version they bring it back.

[JSB]

Considering the size of pbem files, WEGO in TCP/IP would not be very different from pbem. (How many time to upload a 10 Mo or more file?).

That is something curious: it seems that the amount of data exchanged in RT is less considerable...(but I may be absolutely WRONG)

If that patch does not improve the TCP situation, bump this thread and request extensive beta testing of v1.05 in TCP. Sure we'll do it!

[KNac]

No, the amount of data is the same but is shared as it goes contrary to WeGo, when you must transfer a minute worth of data instantatlly.

Considering you have a broadband connection it's not a big problem to tranfer that data, the game must be unplayable on analogic modem though.

[Wodka]

Originally posted by JSB:
Considering the size of pbem files, WEGO in TCP/IP would not be very different from pbem. (How many time to upload a 10 Mo or more file?).

That is something curious: it seems that the amount of data exchanged in RT is less considerable...(but I may be absolutely WRONG)

</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr /> If that patch does not improve the TCP situation, bump this thread and request extensive beta testing of v1.05 in TCP. Sure we'll do it! </font>[/QUOTE]I can`t understand why people allways compare TCP/IP and PBEM. It`s totally different. Nobody plays a PBEM Game in 2-3 hours, that´s just not practical.
If there is no WEGO for TCP/IP the only real option to play this game in multiplayer is to have a PBEM Game over weeks and months, and I did that in the past for CMBO and CMBB, that´s not fun.
Also I still can`t understand (even after reading the old Topics adressing this Problem) why it should be possible to play a lag free game in Realtime, but not in WEGO over the Internet. Why isn`t it possible to pause the game every 60 seconds and give both players the time to think what to do next?

[KNac]

some kind of auto-pause w/ RT has been suggested allready, but that's not the same as WeGo.

Personally I'm fine with pausable RT youc an pretty much replicate WeGo that way. let's hope soemthing is done for 1.05 in that department.

[JSB]

But uploading 10 Mo of data (for example), corresponding to 1 minute of game, takes much more than one minute with my 512 kb/s connection. It would theorically make RT impossible.

Perhaps all the calculations don't need to be transmitted, but are done simultaneously on both computers...

I can`t understand why people allways compare TCP/IP and PBEM. It`s totally different. Nobody plays a PBEM Game in 2-3 hours, that´s just not practical.
If there is no WEGO for TCP/IP the only real option to play this game in multiplayer is to have a PBEM Game over weeks and months, and I did that in the past for CMBO and CMBB, that´s not fun. Waiting hours (or days) for the next e-mail is not fun, but waiting minutes for the next video won't be funny either (for me at least). ;)

[ October 01, 2007, 03:41 AM: Message edited by: JSB ]

[Wodka]

Originally posted by KNac:
some kind of auto-pause w/ RT has been suggested allready, but that's not the same as WeGo.

Personally I'm fine with pausable RT youc an pretty much replicate WeGo that way. let's hope soemthing is done for 1.05 in that department. Something like that would be ok.

[Pandur]

no, i never played multiplayer so far and i cant see me having fun in multiplayer without tcpip wego with replay.
this part of the game is ulimatively screwed for me.