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Michael Dorosh
08-26-2005, 07:37 PM
Get used to it, babies.
Only possible theme for the entry of CMX2.
Soviet Union
versus
Finland
Poland
Fictional encounters with Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Japan
No need to research, model and code 17,000 German AFV types. Simplicity itself.
Looking forward to it. :cool:
junk2drive
08-26-2005, 07:57 PM
Nope
Western Europe 1939-1940
Saar Offensive
Fictional encounters with the victorious French.
Pzman
08-26-2005, 08:07 PM
No, no your both wrong. Space Lobbsers of DOOM, 3959!
gunnersman
08-26-2005, 08:10 PM
I think those are still a bit too grand. From what I can tell from Steve's fireside chats, I think it would more like something along the lines of Normandy, or Kursk, or Operation Market Garden.
Pzman
08-26-2005, 08:19 PM
Yup, based on Steve's comments, we could see something more along the lines of the battle for St.Lo. Thinking smaller scale, seems to be the way Steve has been pointing us to in the past.
Pvt. Ryan
08-26-2005, 08:20 PM
I think the modules are going to take their cue from "24", thus the first game will be Eastern Europe, September 1, 1939, 6:00am - 7:00am
stoat
08-26-2005, 08:26 PM
What I would like to see from CMx2 (not first installment, hoping for NW Europe) is any kind of WWII mainland Europe conflicts before 1943. Germany hits Poland, assisted by the Soviets. Parachute attacks on bridges in the Low Countries. Armoured drives northern France, or what I would really like to see, the battle of Gembleaux. Italians in southern France and Albania. Germans in Yugoslavia and Greece. Norway.
There is enough here for several games and I would like to see them all included in some game at some point in time. (maybe not the Italians in Albania)
David Chapuis
08-26-2005, 08:44 PM
My money is on western europe 1940
Martyr
08-26-2005, 08:47 PM
Sitzkrieg. They can do the coding in an afternoon!
Jack Carr
08-26-2005, 09:17 PM
I'm hoping its the same setting as CMBB.
hellfish
08-26-2005, 09:19 PM
http://community.the-underdogs.org/smiley/puke.gif
Michael Emrys
08-26-2005, 10:06 PM
You all have it wrong. I have it direct from an unnamed inside source that the first CMx2 release is entitled Little Jimmy Throws Spitballs at Mary Margaret in 5th. Grade at St. Anthony's. Don't say anything about this, okay guys?
Michael
Michael Dorosh
08-26-2005, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by Michael Emrys:
You all have it wrong. I have it direct from an unnamed inside source that the first CMx2 release is entitled Little Jimmy Throws Spitballs at Mary Margaret in 5th. Grade at St. Anthony's. Don't say anything about this, okay guys?
Michael Sounds like an historical epic. How many voices do you do in this one?
gunnersman
08-26-2005, 10:34 PM
Is that in the ETO or the PTO?
stoat
08-26-2005, 11:48 PM
It is obviously in Korea. The title should read: Little Jimmy-san Throws...
SgtMuhammed
08-27-2005, 12:09 AM
Italy in Albania or Sealion 1940 (not what could have happened but what acually did). What more could you ask for?
Michael Dorosh
08-27-2005, 12:15 AM
Originally posted by sgtgoody (esq):
Italy in Albania or Sealion 1940 (not what could have happened but what acually did). What more could you ask for? A Channel Islands patch.
Soddball
08-27-2005, 02:28 AM
I've been banking on The Bulge.
WineCape
08-27-2005, 05:09 AM
Friends, it will be WWII - trust me on this one ;)
Sincerely,
Charl Theron
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Salkin
08-27-2005, 05:36 AM
With this new and sexy engine they have every chance to recruit alot of new players who love eye-candy. Very unlikely that the Polish would play a big part in that. I'm guessing they go for the old mainstream Normandy scenario.
Not that there's anything wrong with that :D .
//Salkin
Pvt. Ryan
08-27-2005, 12:23 PM
I think the first game should feature a theater/theme popular enough that it doesn't have to be marketed to grogs only, but at the same time it shouldn't be a game that I will want to spend most of my future CM time playing. The first release should be a sort of demo of what CMx2 is capable of. If the capabilities of the new engine are going to be more fully exploited with each release I would rather BFC hold off on the really poplular themes until they are ready to exploit the engine to its fullest.
To clarify my point, CM:BO is arguably the most popular theater of the CMx1 titles, but I'm sure most of us wish BFC would have gone back to update CM:BO to take advantage of the new developments in CM:BB and CM:AK. I don't want the first CMx2 release to be the game that I will want to play the most if the engine is not yet ready for prime time.
Vergeltungswaffe
08-27-2005, 12:27 PM
First two will be announced together, or nearly so. NW ETO 44 and Russia 43. Gotta get sales up and rolling.
Pvt Ryan. Since the new game is on a much smaller scale it will perhaps not be as much of an issue which area comes first. With CMBO it was the whole NW Europe theatre which was modeled. Now we are more likely to get the "American breakout July 44" or "The Battle For The Bridge at Arnhem". So an early engine release will not preclude so much of a theatre when it is upgraded later.
I truly believe the first release will be in NW Europe and probably the 2nd somewhere on the Eastern front.
But after those 2 I would be willing to bet that WWII will go on the back burner for the next 1 or 2. It would be good marketing at that point to show the engine is capable of other battles. Especially when the engine will be farmed out to 3rd party developers. It would expand your possibilities to branch out.
[ August 27, 2005, 09:48 AM: Message edited by: Emar ]
dangerousdave
08-27-2005, 12:41 PM
I'm with those who believe it has to be WWII, western front. Either Normandy or Bulge. From a marketing standpoint, this is the best way to launch this thing. We also need a setting that allows for big bad tanks. The eastern front would allow for the latter, but the market interest is not as high.
Either that, or Starship Troopers.
anteportas
08-27-2005, 02:05 PM
What about France 1940? Plenty of action and tank battles. British expeditionary forces and French army against the germans. I still find it strange that the germans beat the french in just 3 months while both armies had comparable sizes. In fact, France had more and better armour than the germans.
Would love to drink a nice bottle of wine before going into action.
hellfish
08-27-2005, 02:10 PM
If it doesn't involve Americans, it might not sell well in America, save the grogs and the CM diehards. Joe Gamer doesn't realize that WWII started before December 7, 1941, and he especially doesn't like the French.
anteportas
08-27-2005, 02:35 PM
Well, if they can kill French they might be interested, but I am afraid you are right.
Originally posted by Emar:
It would be good marketing at that point to show the engine is capable of other battles. Especially when the engine will be farmed out to 3rd party developers. It would expand your possibilities to branch out. When was it stated that other developers (3rd party) would be using this new engine? As far as I've ever read BFC has never wanted to get mired in the tech issues in helping a 3rd party learn their engines. But that may have been just for the CMBO era engine. Is there a source for this comment? No offence I am just wondering.
Mord.
[ August 27, 2005, 01:07 PM: Message edited by: Mord ]
Pretty sure I saw a statement about this engine being made available for 3rd parties in one of the anoucements. When I have time I will try to find it.
Originally posted by anteportas:
Well, if they can kill French they might be interested, but I am afraid you are right. Lets say Kennedy won the presidential election and USA opts to get involved really early on and help Germany instead of the British, the French and the Soviets......
Michael Emrys
08-27-2005, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by fytinghellfish:
If it doesn't involve Americans, it might not sell well in America, save the grogs and the CM diehards. Joe Gamer doesn't realize that WWII started before December 7, 1941, and he especially doesn't like the French. Plus, it would require additional research, some of it hard to come by, which they may not have had time to do yet.
Michael
Philippe
08-27-2005, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by fytinghellfish:
If it doesn't involve Americans, it might not sell well in America And that is why the first release will have to be on the Chaco War between Paraguay and Bolivia. You've got Americans on both sides and the research will be easy to do because its in Spanish.
And the Gran Chaco is lovely this time of year...
http://worldatwar.net/chandelle/v1/v1n3/chaco.html
[ August 27, 2005, 02:04 PM: Message edited by: Philippe ]
Michael Dorosh
01-04-2007, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by WineCape:
[QB] Friends, it will be WWII - trust me on this one ;)
Sincerely,
Charl Theron
Trust you? Never again. :mad:
Capt. Toleran
01-04-2007, 10:47 AM
I love how everyone picks their little niche of WWII and assumes it will be the perfect game for everyone. Haven't we gotten enough of WWII already with CM? Haven't we done those tank battles to death? Let's see what's different in modern warfare, instead of rehashing the same troops and equipment time after time. You have CMBB and CMAK for that (and CMBO for the die-hards). Let the rest of us have our change of pace. Also, let CMSF be where the bugs are ironed out in the new engine, so that by the time they make their way back to WWII, they can add in new features and deliver a perfect WWII game (again).
imported_Wildman
01-04-2007, 11:43 AM
I want Hammer's Slammers!
Speedy
01-04-2007, 12:57 PM
Dammint Dorosh stop resurecting your 18 month old threads!!
EarlofWarwick
01-04-2007, 01:49 PM
No, you are all wrong. The first WW2 module will focus on the struggle for Kohima and Imphal on the Indian frontier with Burma. BTS has already begun the model the tennis courts, along with the inevitable malaria and jungle rot. British military sangfroid at its best. The only logical choice, really.
[ January 04, 2007, 10:54 AM: Message edited by: EarlofWarwick ]
Andrew H.
01-06-2007, 08:14 PM
No one gets it!
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Can fanatical teenagers equipped with advanced technology from the distant future defeat the combined might of the allies and win WWII?
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