The All New Newbie Tournament: Fellowship of the Newbie

[Cpl Carrot]

No new players are required. The winners have just about been decided

Ok, so my week starts early :D

Here are the rules

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This tournament is for newbies only. What is a newbie? Well a newbie is considered (in my book) to be a person with either little or no experience with multi-player gaming and/or inexperienced in the joys that is Combat Mission: Beyond Overlord. If you fit this criteria then feel free to join in the fun. If you are unsure, ask me.

Players will be put into groups of 16 with 4 backups. They will then be paired off against someone of their own level and will play two battles. The combined sum of these results will determine the winner of the pairing and that person will advance.

If by some freak of nature there is a tie, then a third battle will be played and the winner will advance. If this is then a tie then I will start tearing out my hair and eating my shirt. The losing player of each battle will email me and tell me the score along with their final file and password. In case of a tie, then both email me.

Players can either play by PBEM and or TCP/IP. You will have plenty of time to complete the battles using PBEM only. No one is going to be forced to play via TCP/IP. However you should look to play at least one email per day. Real life has a bad habit of springing surprises so if you are ahead of schedule then the better we can all cope. If for some reason you are going to unable to play for a day or so then let myself and your opponent know as soon as you can. If you must drop out please let your opponent know along with me.

No abuse, trash-talking etc will be tolerated. Even in jest this can taken the wrong way and spoil the experience for the other player. If you can't be nice – don't play. Simple as that.

The esteemed Panzerman and Company at the CM Scenario Zone will be making the maps. They will be the best they can make and will be VERY fair to each side.

After Action Reports (AAR's) are not required, however they will be welcome. If you included pictures make sure you make them small otherwise I am not going to be happy (and you don't want that). The final battle between the last two players WILL however require a detailed blow by blow AAR.

Prizes are as yet unknown. It maybe an honorary generalship into the mighty Redsylvanian Army or the bestowing of the rank of Squire in the Peng Challenge thread. Or it could be something much, much worse ;)

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Thats all for now. More to follow

[ January 11, 2003, 10:17 PM: Message edited by: Cpl Carrot ]

[Cpl Carrot]

Ok so now how to join up.

Simple, just do the following:

Email me rjb109@i4free.co.nz
with the subject line of Joining the NT and answer the following questions on a seperate line.

Your real name, your BTS nickname*, your email address*, your home city, your home country or state if in the USA, your CM experience*, your PBEM experience* and finally your shoe size

So it should look like this:

Joe Bloggs
Slartybartfus
Slarrt@hotmall.com
Takaka
New Zealand
Only against the AI
None
11

Within 24 hours you should recieve an automated reply accepting your entry if questions are answered adequately.

Note questions marked with * are compulsary.

Cpl Carrot.

Oh, one at a time please :D

[SuperTed]

Great work, Corporal. :D

[Pzman]

Things are going great on our end Cpl.Carrot, oh and by the way, we are from the Scenario zone, not the depot. ;) And Ted did you get my email, I hope I sent it to you, and not someone else.

[ May 18, 2002, 06:51 PM: Message edited by: Panzerman ]

[Cpl Carrot]

Happy now? ;) Seems I can't post anything without upsetting someone :( :D

[SuperTed]

Originally posted by Panzerman:
Things are going great on our end Cpl.Carrot, oh and by the way, we are from the Scenario zone, not the depot. ;) And Ted did you get my email, I hope I sent it to you, and not someone else.Rob,

I got it, but I'm a little swamped. I'll have it posted by the end of the night.

[Pzman]

Originally posted by SuperTed:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Panzerman:
Things are going great on our end Cpl.Carrot, oh and by the way, we are from the Scenario zone, not the depot. ;) And Ted did you get my email, I hope I sent it to you, and not someone else.Rob,

I got it, but I'm a little swamped. I'll have it posted by the end of the night.</font>[/QUOTE]Ok, no rush. smile.gif
Cpl. Carrot, its not insulting I am just letting you know.

[ May 18, 2002, 07:23 PM: Message edited by: Panzerman ]

[Cpl Carrot]

In the news today: The All New Newbie Tourament has a name. From now on it will be The Fellowship of the Newbie . My thanks to SuperTed for the idea.

Thats all for now

Cpl Carrot

[Austrian Strategist]

Count me in!

Personal preferences: I´d like to choose to my forces within not too restricting limits. (I like fortifications, for example, and doing away with them I´d find fun reducing.)

[Dave H]

Can you clarify something for me? You mention the maps, but not the forces. Will this be a set of scenarios with forces determined by someone else, or a u-pick free for all?

And if it's a pick your own situation, will any particular set of "Rules" be enforced?

And most important, have six PBEM games cost me my cherished status of Newbie? :confused: If not, how many PBEM games does it take to become an Oldie? tongue.gif

Enquiring minds (well, one mind anyway) want to know.

[SuperTed]

AS and Dave,

The Scenario Zone team will be designing the scenarios, so special orders will not be accepted. Sorry. smile.gif

[ May 20, 2002, 03:19 PM: Message edited by: SuperTed ]

[Incognito]

Originally posted by Dave H:
Can you clarify something for me? You mention the maps, but not the forces. Will this be a set of scenarios with forces determined by someone else, or a u-pick free for all?

And if it's a pick your own situation, will any particular set of "Rules" be enforced?
I would like to an answer to this one too :confused: :eek: :rolleyes:

[Dave H]

Originally posted by SuperTed:
AS and Dave,

Boots & Tracks will be designing the scenarios, so special orders will not be accepted. Sorry.No apology necessary. I should have known if you were involved that nobody gets to screw up your psycho maps and weather conditions with 20 flamethrowers and/or flak guns.

But my other question remains, how new is a Newbie? If I consistently lose PBEMs, do I ever stop being a Newbie? For that matter, why would I ever want to stop being a Newbie? Obviously with a Member number over 5000 I'll never be an "Old One" (thank you, God!). :D

[ May 20, 2002, 03:36 PM: Message edited by: Dave H ]

[SuperTed]

Dave,

Actually, my reflexes got the better of me. :rolleyes: Panzerman and the team at The Scenario Zone are doing the scenarios, not B&T. The parameters will be the same as what I used for the first Newbie tournament, and I am sure the boys will do great work.

As far as defining a Nebie goes, that is Cpl Carrot's call. When he wakes for the day, I am sure he can explain that in detail.

Psycho maps?! :D

[Pzman]

Originally posted by SuperTed:
Dave,

Actually, my reflexes got the better of me. :rolleyes: Panzerman and the team at The Scenario Zone are doing the scenarios, not B&T. The parameters will be the same as what I used for the first Newbie tournament, and I am sure the boys will do great work.

As far as defining a Nebie goes, that is Cpl Carrot's call. When he wakes for the day, I am sure he can explain that in detail.

Psycho maps?! :D I have not seen B&Ts psycho maps, they look very real to me, it must just be him Ted. As for how the battles are coming, well thats for me to know, and for the Newbies to find out... :D
Lets put it this way, they will be challenging, and fun at the same time. ;)

[ May 20, 2002, 05:12 PM: Message edited by: Panzerman ]

[Cpl Carrot]

In order to define a newbie I look at the responses people gave to questions about CM & PBEM experience. From this I will pool together people of about the grasp of things and continue from there. When enrolment closes (a couple of weeks from now probably) I will post who is in what pool and ask for submissions if people are not happy with their group. (Please be resonable ;) )

If I do not think people are eligible (ie if Fionn shows up) they will receive a message from me saying so and why.

AS and Dave H - I have your submissions and am working on getting a response to you, but you are in

As for the maps, Panzerman and co are working away to produce the fairest and bestest maps they can so rest assured that no one will have an unfair advantage.

Cpl Carrot

[ May 20, 2002, 07:08 PM: Message edited by: Cpl Carrot ]

[Cpl Carrot]

Plenty of room yet.

Cpl Carrot

[Shades]

I'm not sure if I missed it but what type of rules will apply to protect against gamey tactics?

[ May 22, 2002, 03:02 AM: Message edited by: Shades ]

[SuperTed]

Originally posted by Shades:
I'm not sure if I missed it but what type of rules will apply to protect against gamey tactics?Shades,

Good scenario design! :rolleyes:

[Dave H]

Originally posted by SuperTed:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Shades:
I'm not sure if I missed it but what type of rules will apply to protect against gamey tactics?Shades,

Good scenario design! :rolleyes: </font>[/QUOTE]Yeah, how gamey can you get with pre-shaken conscript old men in a snowstorm? When your big armored force is a (that's one) halftrack?

If you can manage gamey tactics in a scenario like that, you don't belong in a Newbie tournament. You should be creating your own game. tongue.gif

[Austrian Strategist]

BUMP! Some more people volunteer, please, so this gets going! Otherwise, when this tourny starts, I will have stopped being a Newbie. :D

Any info about RoundI, already? smile.gif

[Cpl Carrot]

Scenarios are progressing. I will know more come Tuesday. (My Tuesday - your Monday) (maybe).

Keep the enrolments coming - heaps of room. (In fact there is no real upper limit, as long as it is a mulitple of 16)

Cpl Carrot

[arax3]

Sign me UP!! L3

[Japper]

I just joined the tournament. Come on other newbies, it's a great way of learning new tactics and strategies!

(BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: how the h*ll did that happen to my tank? :D ;) )

[Piglet]

Count me in please

[Cpl Carrot]

Piglet and Arax3: Send me the relevent info and you are in.

Cpl Carrot

[Pzman]

Originally posted by Dave H:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by SuperTed:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Shades:
I'm not sure if I missed it but what type of rules will apply to protect against gamey tactics?Shades,

Good scenario design! :rolleyes: </font>[/QUOTE]Yeah, how gamey can you get with pre-shaken conscript old men in a snowstorm? When your big armored force is a (that's one) halftrack?

If you can manage gamey tactics in a scenario like that, you don't belong in a Newbie tournament. You should be creating your own game. tongue.gif </font>[/QUOTE]Lets put it this way, in our battles you wont see ten Jagdtigers vs. five Stuarts. As for snowstorms and pre-shaken conscripts I don't see much of that... but then we like to keep our battles realistic... ;)

[Dave H]

Originally posted by Panzerman:
.....
Lets put it this way, in our battles you wont see ten Jagdtigers vs. five Stuarts. As for snowstorms and pre-shaken conscripts I don't see much of that... but then we like to keep our battles realistic... ;) Please don't misunderstand my comments. I much prefer a realistic scenario to a wild free for all. I also don't mind unbalanced scenarios.

Actually the issue of "balance" has been one of my pet peeves about wargaming for several decades. Throughout history there have been very, very few "balanced" wars, or battles, or skirmishes. Invariably one side has some advantage over the opposition. Many times each side has both advantages and disadvantages. Tactics is how you maximize your advantages and minimize your disadvantages.

So bring on the scenarios, with the possibility of running into anything. And ask SuperTed if he doesn't remember his scenario with the snow and the shaken old timers. Oh, that was one whole platoon of shaken old timers in the set-up! :D

[SuperTed]

Originally posted by Dave H:
And ask SuperTed if he doesn't remember his scenario with the snow and the shaken old timers. Oh, that was one whole platoon of shaken old timers in the set-up! :D Dave,

Hey, quit picking on the old farts! They did fine when I used them. As a matter of fact, I remember their counterattack going quite well when the scenario finally ended. :cool:

[Austrian Strategist]

Lets put it this way, in our battles you wont see ten Jagdtigers vs. five Stuarts... Eh, but does that mean we get no choice of forces at all? :(
Even in real life, over time, a commander would probably drift toward the kind of force he is comfortable with.

[ May 25, 2002, 07:09 AM: Message edited by: Austrian Strategist ]

[Cpl Carrot]

Correct. You will play with what you are given.

[Pzman]

Originally posted by Austrian Strategist:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr /> Lets put it this way, in our battles you wont see ten Jagdtigers vs. five Stuarts... Eh, but does that mean we get no choice of forces at all? :(
Even in real life, over time, a commander would probably drift toward the kind of force he is comfortable with.</font>[/QUOTE]The tournament isn't using QBs so that's not possible. The idea of this is to use what you have. In war you don't always have the units you would like to have.

[SleeStac]

I would like to thank Cpl Carrot, The Scenario Zone, and the other members of the CM community that are taking time and putting forward the effort to make this Tournament occur! This is really Exciting!

[Pzman]

Well, a report on the scenarios will be sent to Cpl Carrot and just to let you all know, we are about half done the battles for the for the first round of the tournament. In other words they are coming long well. Thanks for your kind words SleeStac. smile.gif

[Cpl Carrot]

As Panzerman said, the battles seem to be coming along and will hopefully be ready for a kick off on the 10th of June. As someone probably said "Good things take time". ;)

There is still space for people to join. If you are not sure if you qualify as a newbie email me and ask. I'll soon let you know.

Enrollment will close on 3 days before the start of the tourny (so around the 7th fingers crossed)

During these three days I will be emailing you to confirm your opponents and that I have your correct email address. The opponent list will also be posted here.

That is all

Cpl Carrot

Ps please please please note these dates are not repeat not set in stone. They are, at this stage, my best guess, so go easy on me if they change.

[Ace Pilot]

How goes the enrollment?

Just curious,
Ace

[Cpl Carrot]

Enrollment is progressing nicely. More room yet for anyone wanting to join.

(The above implies that there is enough people enrolled for 2 tournies) smile.gif

Cpl Carrot

[Stormin Norman]

I want to second Sleestac's gratitude. I know it's a huge amount of work the organizers are puttin into the tournament.

I hope they are able to gleam some enjoyment out of watching us newbs shoot, stab, crush, poke, and verbaly insult one another smile.gif

[Cpl Carrot]

SN: You can do any of what you said except the verbal abuse. That is a big no-no in this tourny. It is even in the rules

Cpl Carrot

[Former Jarhead]

Originally posted by Cpl Carrot:
Enrollment is progressing nicely. More room yet for anyone wanting to join.

(The above implies that there is enough people enrolled for 2 tournies) smile.gif Hey Cpl Carrot, any idea when we might get started. Getting the itch.

[Cpl Carrot]

When its ready. I have penciled in June 10, but it is really out of my hands.

Cpl Carrot

[Pzman]

Originally posted by Cpl Carrot:
When its ready. I have penciled in June 10, but it is really out of my hands.

Cpl CarrotJune 10th should be about right, as we will start winding down work on the battles this weekend / early next week.

[Cpl Carrot]

A bump to bring this out of the wilderness and to say I have room for 2 more people only. In fact two more people would make things easier on me. So what are you waiting for smile.gif

Cpl Carrot

[Cpl Carrot]

Here is the list of people entered. If your name is not on the list and you have had an email from me saying welcome etc let me know pronto. If your name is not on the list and you want to be - email me the required details and I'll see what I can do.

DL
Major LardLad
Ace Pilot
Algcs
PK
lenwuk
Cataract Jack
SkeeterBee
Lutar
yarmaluk
SpaceHamster
Otime
SleeStac
Jwirry
Alsatian
Patgod
Killgore
Endit
Stormin Norman
Woofers
Pawter
Austrian Strategist
Exadoor
Yggdrasill
Gpig
Dave H
Sgt Shultz
SpazManOught
Thin Red Line
Zarquon
Panzerboy
Spence
Mighty Honu
Shades
Madmonkey666
Joe Cz
Lurker
Japper
Packman
Hades
Former Jarhead
Lt Kije
Rhudat
GWDWD
Maximillian
arax3
PlagueDog

Cpl Carrot

[ June 19, 2002, 07:29 PM: Message edited by: Cpl Carrot ]

[Joe F]

Hello every one,

I just joined (sent the information), hope its not too late. Looking forward to battle you all smile.gif

[Cpl Carrot]

Originally posted by Joe F:
Hello every one,

I just joined (sent the information), hope its not too late. Looking forward to battle you all smile.gif Joe I have not recieved anything from you, unless it was under a different name. Send again if you are still wanting to play.

In related news I have enough players to form three seperate tournys. Anyone signing on from now on will become replacements for anyone dropping out for whatever reasons. If you are a replacement - don't worry, I will make sure you have some game time (against other replacements if need be).

Later today (or tomorrow) I will post the draw of who plays who.

That is all

Cpl Carrot

[Joe F]

Hi Cpl Carrot.

My real name is Joseph Fridericia,
Sorry about that, but im just used to calling myself Joe. (Everbody else does), I just posted you another mail with my details, hope you sort it out as i would very much like to try a tournament!..

My email is jdf@mail.dk

:cool:

[Cpl Carrot]

Got it this time round.

[Austrian Strategist]

It´s June 10. (In fact, it´s nearly June 11, over here!) :D smile.gif

[Cpl Carrot]

OK here are the teams and whos playing who. I did say the start date was not set in stone and just as well. Please be patient. No one wants this thing off the ground more than me.

Cpl Carrot

Riders of Rohan

Mighty Honu
Shades

Madmonkey666
Joe Cz

Lurker
GWDWD

Packman
Hades

Former Jarhead
Lt Kije

Rhudat
Japper

Maximillian
arax3

PlagueDog
Munter

Unnamed

DL
Major LardLad

Ace Pilot
Jwirry

PK
lenwuk

Cataract Jack
SkeeterBee

Lutar
yarmaluk

SpaceHamster
Otime

SleeStac
Alan

Alsatian
Patgod

Unnamed

Killgore
Endit

Stormin Norman
Woofers

Pawter
Austrian Strategist

Exadoor
Yggdrasill

Gpig
SpazManOught

Sgt Shultz
Dave H

Thin Red Line
Zarquon

Panzerboy
Spence

[ June 19, 2002, 07:31 PM: Message edited by: Cpl Carrot ]

[Pzman]

Sorry for the delay, but as you all know real life™ comes before, CM, and the last week has been a busy one for me and other members of the team. And from what I am hearing from the team we will need another week to get them ready. Once again sorry for the delay. :(

[ June 10, 2002, 07:18 PM: Message edited by: Panzerman ]

[Austrian Strategist]

Originally posted by Cpl Carrot:

OK here are the teams and whos playing who.Thanks. What does 'Riders of Rohan' mean? smile.gif

[Alan]

Hey SleeStac,

Do you want to try a small QB just for fun? It looks like we are going to be waiting a little longer.

Alan

[Cpl Carrot]

Would have preferred Elves, hobbits and Orcs?

Ok thanks for the update Panzerman. Reschudling for the 17th.

[Austrian Strategist]

Question for Panzerman: Do you have a link to scenarios your team has made for earlier Newbie Tournaments, so we can get an idea what to expect?

No problem with the delay, but any bones to satisfy my curiosity would be appreciated. smile.gif

[SleeStac]

Alan,

Sounds Great! I'm about to leave for the night but should be back tomorrow. Send me an email at: TCT606060@Hotmail.Com and we can get set up. I have to warn you, this will be my first PBEM so I might be facing a little learning curve.

[Pzman]

Originally posted by Austrian Strategist:
Question for Panzerman: Do you have a link to scenarios your team has made for earlier Newbie Tournaments, so we can get an idea what to expect?

No problem with the delay, but any bones to satisfy my curiosity would be appreciated. smile.gif We have not worked on any other tournaments, but the other battles we have done are all at the scenario zone or the CM Scenario Depot.Scenario Zone's Scenarios Page (http://combat1.50megs.com/battle.htm)

[rhudat]

hey panzerman,
i have a question or two if you can answer without giving away any battle intelligence.
can you give us an idea points wise about how big these battles might be.
1000/1500, 1500/2000 ?
will the battles get larger as we move forward or stay the same size.
it might give us an idea of the time we'll need to
devote to the tourny. my tourny battles will take priority but i have 8 other pbems going (learn by doing)and i can start playing smaller battles the next time around with my other opponents to give more time to the tourny if need be.
this is my first tourny so if these are stupid questions just say so. i'm easy.
while i'm here i want to thank you and cpl carrot for running this tourny. i've run a few sports pools and i know it takes alot of time and can be very daunting at times.
ted,
"FELLOWSHIP OF THE NEWBIE" is a great title.
i like to think fellowship is what this forum is all about.

[Austrian Strategist]

Originally posted by Panzerman:

We have not worked on any other tournaments, but the other battles we have done are all at the scenario zone or the CM Scenario Depot.My mistake; I assumed you made the scenarios for the previous Newbie Tournament(s) as well.

I have downloaded rhe Lorraine Pack, and it looks highly interesting!

Can you tell us anything not confidential about the Tourny Scenarios? smile.gif

[ June 11, 2002, 06:05 PM: Message edited by: Austrian Strategist ]

[Pzman]

I can tell you this much, that as the tournament goes on the battles, will get larger, and harder. They will start off with simple attack, meeting and defence scenarios, around company sized. Then as you move from round to round they will get a little bigger, and harder. We are trying to let newbies see and learn to use as many elements of CM as possible, like weather, ground conditions etc. While using historically realistic forces. That's all I will say for now.

[ June 11, 2002, 06:32 PM: Message edited by: Panzerman ]

[Austrian Strategist]

Originally posted by Panzerman:

I can tell you this much, that as the tournament goes on the battles, will get larger, and harder. They will start off with simple attack, meeting and defence scenarios, around company sized. Then as you move from round to round they will get a little bigger, and harder. We are trying to let newbies see and learn to use as many elements of CM as possible, like weather, ground conditions etc. While using historically realistic forces. That's all I will say for now.Sounds great! smile.gif

[SuperTed]

Originally posted by Austrian Strategist:


...I assumed you made the scenarios for the previous Newbie Tournament(s) as well...

AS,

I believe you're thinking of the original Newbie Tournament. smile.gif

[Austrian Strategist]

Originally posted by SuperTed:

I believe you're thinking of the original Newbie Tournament. smile.gif I stand corrected. smile.gif

[Webs]

Dang, looks like I found this party just a tad too late....

[CMsoldier]

Hey carrot, i sent an e-mail to you 2 days ago and the e-mail said. Welcome, you are in the reserves, or something like that. Deos that mean i am in?

[Cpl Carrot]

It means that I have enough players to fill 48 places (3 tournies) and any extra's will cover any who drop out for whatever reasons. The reserves will play amounst themselves while waiting for a position to open up.

Hope this answers your question.

Cpl Carrot

[CMsoldier]

Yeah that answer may question, thanks. Oh and, could you by any chance post all the people that are in the reserves, if of course, you have time.

[Cpl Carrot]

Yes how thoughtless of me. The reserves are:

Sturmsebber
Joe F
CMsoldier
webs

Cpl Carrot

[Alan]

BUMP

How is it going guys?

[Pzman]

I just emailed the battles to Cpl. Carrot so you will be able to start when every he is ready. smile.gif

[Cpl Carrot]

Shhhhhhhh. Now you've done it. ;)

Ok folks heres the deal. I am flat out at work for the next two days. I will try to have the Riders of Rohan battles out to the appropriate people on Thursday. The other two groups following after. Please, please be patient.

[SuperTed]

Good luck, guys! :D

[Dave H]

Cpl. Carrot,

A quick question before we get going.

Will we be using the game-generated raw scores only, or will you be using some variation like the Nabla system they're using in the RoW tournament?

I bring this up because in the original Newbie Tournament the issue of "unbalanced scenarios" reared its ugly head. SuperTed had to do some adjusting of scores in at least one scenario (if I remember correctly, he divided both player's scores by 2).

I personally have no preference one way or the other. So before this comes up, can we get an official ruling now?

Thanks.

[Cpl Carrot]

All:

The scenarios are balanced. Therefore, I will be using the raw scores. You will be fighting two battles each and the player with the highest combined score goes through.

Cpl Carrot

[Austrian Strategist]

Originally posted by Panzerman:
I just emailed the battles to Cpl. Carrot so you will be able to start when every he is ready. smile.gif Woohoo! Thanks, and good luck, everybody! smile.gif

[Frunze]

Is this tournament still open? If so I'd like to join...definitely qualify as a Newbie, never played a human opponent, in fact got the game pretty recently.

[Cpl Carrot]

Battles have been sent out to the Riders of Rohan . You should have one battle as Axis and the other as Allied.

However can Hades please contact me ASAP as your hotmail account was not accessable. Packman , as this is your opponent, you had better hold fire until I either hear from him (or you do) or I find you a new opponent. Hades, you will have until Saturday evening (My time).

OK everyone else in Riders of Rohan best of luck. Please use the passwords I have supplied, you will be needing them in your future battles so don't tell anyone.

I do not have set an end date yet, but assume it is tomorrow :D :eek:

If you have any questions feel free to email me, however, please, please, please check to see that it is not answered somewhere in this thread.

That is all

Cpl Carrot

Hmmm. Guess that is not all. The second group should get their battles tonight or tomorrow and the third after that.

Oh in case you are wondering my time is GMT+12 :eek:

[ June 19, 2002, 04:06 PM: Message edited by: Cpl Carrot ]

[Cpl Carrot]

Originally posted by Frunze:
Is this tournament still open? If so I'd like to join...definitely qualify as a Newbie, never played a human opponent, in fact got the game pretty recently.If you send me the required details I can put you into the reserves. This will mean that you will have to wait for someone to drop out, but I will organise for you to play other reserves while you wait.

Cpl Carrot

[PK]

Hello all. I'd like to thank the Corperal for organising the tournemount for us newbies and thank you to the team at the scenario zone/depot for producing the maps.
I can't wait to test my tactical genius :eek: against a real opponent having sharpened my skills at the hands of the AI these past few months. :D
Good luck to all and lets enjoy it.

p.s My log in name was meant to be Zulu but someone beat me to it.

p.p.s To the guys at Battlefront. Thanks guys for producing this fantastic game. I found out about it in late 2000 and it hasn't left my hard drive since. Can't wait for the second installment. smile.gif

[Patgod]

thanks guys, recieved my opponent, awaiting setup files.

good luck everyone!

[Austrian Strategist]

Originally posted by Cpl Carrot:

I do not have set an end date yet, but assume it is tomorrow :D

Cpl Carrot :eek:
Please make this two large grins, Cpl, so I can be assured you are not meaning it. smile.gif

I never play TCP, and with Pbem a game can easily last 4 weeks.

[Austrian Strategist]

Originally posted by Patgod:
thanks guys, recieved my opponent, awaiting setup files.

good luck everyone!Good luck, Patgod! Be careful you don´t lose your Elite King Tiger in turn 1! :D :D :D

[Pzman]

Originally posted by Austrian Strategist:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Patgod:
thanks guys, recieved my opponent, awaiting setup files.

good luck everyone!Good luck, Patgod! Be careful you don´t lose your Elite King Tiger in turn 1! :D :D :D </font>[/QUOTE]I don't think that would be a problem... after all green let alone Elite KingTigers are gamey. ;)

[ June 19, 2002, 04:03 PM: Message edited by: Panzerman ]

[Cpl Carrot]

Update: Battles for the second group are out, third are about to be sent.

I guess I should have been clearer earlier. I have sent both battles to the first player in the group. When they start each battle they will be automatically assigned a side as the battles are Tourny saved. You should have one Axis and one Allied.



PK please email me. I need to clear something up.

Thanks

Cpl Carrot

[Cpl Carrot]

Further update: Third group battles are out.

I have heard from Hades so reserves can stand down.

Speaking of reserves - I will try to have a battles for you to play by this week end.

Cpl Carrot

Ps still tryng to work out a date to end things on.

[Webs]

Just a FYI, I'll be out of town Thursday night to Sunday night. I should still be in e-mail contact and I'll have a laptop with CM, but I'd prefer to wait to play it on my home desktop Mac. On the bright side, I'm a freelance bum, so I can get to it first thing Monday morning. smile.gif

[Cpl Carrot]

Ok I'm closing down the enrolments. I have eight or nine reserves which should be enough. If not then I will open things up again.

The end date for the battles has been set. It will be 2359 31 July 2002 my time. This should give every one plenty of time to get their battles done. Valid reasons may yield extensions (things like the dog ate my computer etc)

That is all

Cpl Carrot

[PanzerBoy]

Many thanks to Corporal Carrot and the scenario designers... I got my maps last night and they look excellent.

Good luck everybody!

[Cataract Jack]

My regrets I must drop out as my dad is expected to pass away within days and must go stay with him

[Dave H]

Originally posted by Cataract Jack:
My regrets I must drop out as my dad is expected to pass away within days and must go stay with himJack,

You have my most sincere condolences. I can imagine how you're feeling, as my Mother died six weeks ago. All you can do is keep putting one foot in front of the other for a while. But trust me, the sun still comes up in the mornings and life will go on.

[PanzerBoy]

Jack,

my condolences too. My wife and I lost our baby a year ago. Best wishes.

[Cpl Carrot]

I am sorry to hear that Cataract Jack. My condolences.

Sturmsebber, you will be taking Cataract Jacks place. I will sen you the details when I get home from work.

[SturmSebber]

Ok,

Sorry "Cataract Jack ", it is sad that i can play because of your misfortune. My condolences.

[0time]

SpaceHampster!
Been trying to send you moves but they keep getting bounced back.
Message of:

<your e-mail>:
xxx.xx.xxx.xxx does not like recipient.
Remote host said: xxx x.x.x unknown or illegal alias:
your e-mail
Giving up on xx.xx.xxx.xxx.

Any idea why?
I will keep trying. :confused:
EDIT,
hmmmm, looks like maybe they went through now, let me know.
tanks.

[ June 23, 2002, 09:22 AM: Message edited by: 0time ]

[Incognito]

Originally posted by 0time:
SpaceHampster!
Been trying to send you moves but they keep getting bounced back.
Message of:

Any idea why?
EDIT,
hmmmm, looks like maybe they went through now, let me know.
tanks.Yay, I got'em.
Relax, it's just that there's only 1 company(country side) providing ADSL connections(and I hate 56kb modems smile.gif ) which basically means that it has monopoly, which sucks bacause, they don't have to compete and can have lot worse services (servers down at night time etc.)
Since I'm 8hours ahead of yuo, then try again at morning, if this happens again.

:cool:
Cheers

[Zarquon]

Thin Red Line, I' waiting for your first turn. Have you received your setup ? :confused:

Plz mail me at j.ellermann@tu-bs.de

[Cpl Carrot]

SleeStac Please email me urgently. Your partner has not heard from you and we need to know if you are still playing. If I don't hear from you by Friday night, I will have to withdraw from the tourny and give your place to the next reserve Joe F

In related matters, if any one has not yet heard from their partner let me know IMMEDIATELY. As in now.

Since everyone else seems to be nearly finished ( :D :D ) here is what you do with the final results. The loser of each battle is to email me the result PLUS the final turn.

Now some of you have asked about AAR's. These will be welcome by Panzerman and Co however they are not compulsary yet. If you do write one, keep any pictures small an in .jpg format. Otherwise my ISP will have fits. smile.gif

When everyone is finished I will start a thread in the scenario section where you guys can talk about the battles, but please wait until then.

That is all

Cpl Carrot

[Zarquon]

I'm still waiting...

[Cpl Carrot]

Former Jarhead, Thin Red Line Can you please contact me or your partner urgently.

Can all reserves please contact me as well. I need to know that you guys are still around and keen.

Thanks all

Cpl Carrot

[ June 25, 2002, 04:51 PM: Message edited by: Cpl Carrot ]

[Cpl Carrot]

A most serious bump. I am still waiting for the three players mentioned above, plus the reserves to contact me.

Cpl Carrot

[Alan]

Bump. Because tomorrow is Friday and I'm ready to play.

[Munter]

PlagueDog, I'm still waiting...

M

[Cpl Carrot]

Right, thats it, I've had enough. Thin Red Line, SleeStac, Former Jarhead , you are gone. Cataract Jack , you will be taking SleeStac place. I will email you soon. Zarquon, I should have good news for you soon.

Is anyone else AWOL that I need to know about?

Munter , email me describing your situation with PlagueDog .

SuperTed Some warning would have been nice :mad: smile.gif

[ June 28, 2002, 07:00 PM: Message edited by: Cpl Carrot ]

[Austrian Strategist]

Now here for some good news:

Everything well in the game between Pawter and me. Maps look GREAT; we have arrived at turn 5 in both scenarios, and are having a lot of fun. (Mostly we are firing jokes at each other, not many shells yet, because our forces have some difficulty finding the enemy; :D this will soon change, I suspect.)

[ June 28, 2002, 08:13 PM: Message edited by: Austrian Strategist ]

[SuperTed]

Originally posted by Cpl Carrot:

SuperTed Some warning would have been nice :mad: smile.gif CC,

Did I forget to tell you people would disappear? How silly of me. :D

[Cpl Carrot]

I knew people would drop out. It's the vanishing without trace thats annoying.

[Alan]

It is kind of odd. SleeStac and I had started a PBEM for fun 2 weeks ago and then he just vanished. I figured he just wanted to wait until the tournament started.

[SuperTed]

Originally posted by Cpl Carrot:
I knew people would drop out. It's the vanishing without trace thats annoying.CC,

Agreed. That's why it's good to have lots of reserves. ;)

[Treeburst155]

Speaking of vanishing without a trace, I need a brave soul to assume a combat command in a very tough section of the RoW II: Boots & Tracks Brawl Tourney. This volunteer would be able to start from scratch. IOW, none of the games have been started yet.

If any of you Newbies have the time to take on five more PBEM games, and want a real challenge, I have what you're looking for. Email me at mikeman@cablelynx.com for details and/or check the first page of the current RoW II thread. Most everything you might want to know is posted there. Thanks for letting me advertise here. tongue.gif

BTW, you would be playing five brand new Boots & Tracks Official scenarios completely blind.

Treeburst155 out.

[Pzman]

Trying to steel people away from the Newbie tournament? Hehe. I can tell you this much, I have tried running a tournament before, and a hole bunch of people signed up, and then never bothered to play in it. So CC I know your pain. ;)

[Cpl Carrot]

To all Newbies:

I also recommend that if you have the time and comitment that you sign up for the RoW II Tourny. Don't be put off by the words tough section . Of course I'm a bit put out that I was not asked be thems the breaks.

Treeburst, the advertising space in this thread does not come cheap. My bill is in the mail. :D

Lt Kije I cannot get hold of you. Your email keeps on bouncing. Please contact me urgently with another address (or get your currnet one working)

[Incognito]

If I dissappear for few days in near future, that means just that i'm fixing my comp (hoping that i don't have to format :cool: )
becaus windows has once again spontaneously corrupted my hard disk, and done something to little useless little files like config.sys and kernel tongue.gif
But luckilly this is just a little warning nothing to worry about.

Btw CC if someone doesn't respond thats their Prbl just take it :cool:

[Former Jarhead]

Originally posted by Cpl Carrot:
Right, thats it, I've had enough. Thin Red Line, SleeStac, Former Jarhead , you are gone.CC,

I don't know if I'm already kicked out but, for the record I emailed Lt. Kije three days before I went on vacation letting him know I'd be out for a week. With this email I also sent my first turn.

When I returned I had an email from him with his first turn and one from you asking where I went...

I don't know if he didn't get my vacation email or just didn't read it but something got lost.

If I'm kicked out I'd really like to be put on the reserve list as I'm here for good now.

Thanks.

[Austrian Strategist]

'Reinforcements...we are in URGENT-NEED-OF-REINFORCEMENTS!!...Headquarters...can you hear me???...'

[Cpl Carrot]

Former Jarhead Ok, seems we had a break down in commumication. I can't get hold of Lt Kije to explain the situation so I will do a shuffle of opponents and put you right back into the fray

Cpl Carrot

[Treeburst155]

Sorry, Cpl Carrot. It would have been polite to have asked first before recruiting on your thread. I'll be sure to do so from now on.

Treeburst155 out.

[Cpl Carrot]

Originally posted by Treeburst155:
Sorry, Cpl Carrot. It would have been polite to have asked first before recruiting on your thread. I'll be sure to do so from now on.

Treeburst155 out.:D :D

[Cpl Carrot]

Just a BUMP to bring this thread out of the murky depths of page 5

If anyone has some good news feel free to post - I need some cheering up

Cpl Carrot

[SuperTed]

Since losing the championship game a few weeks ago, my soccer team has played three games. Here are the results:

Win 8-0
Win 7-4
Win 8-1

I think we're on the right track! :D

[Cpl Carrot]

Not quite what I meant but did bring a smile to my face smile.gif

[PanzerBoy]

Spence and I are experiencing extremely severe fighting... things blowing up left, right and centre. Thanks again to the map creators. "Ready For The Fray" is particularly germane to slaughter. No winners emerging as yet, but casualties on both sides...

[Dave H]

Originally posted by Cpl Carrot:
...
If anyone has some good news feel free to post - I need some cheering up

Cpl CarrotDon't know if you consider this good news, but it is information anyway. I really, really HATE bocage!! The two battlefields have plenty of the disgusting stuff. I think it was plenty gamey of the Allies to invade in France (not to mention the Germans who actually defended themselves in France) and force us gamers to deal with this uniquely aggravating terrain feature.

Can't BTS/BFC fix this and let us play out the Normandy campaign in flat, open country (like the movie "Battle of the Bulge" did for the Ardennes forests)? It would sure simplify things a lot. :D

[PanzerBoy]

I entirely endorse these anti-bocage sentiments. The amount of SS troops I've had butchered in bocage doesn't really bear thinking about.

[athkatla]

It doesn't matter what kind of terrain I play in. My troops happily wander off to their deaths with a smile on their faces :D I don't think they rate me very much :eek:

[Cataract Jack]

we have made contact. I am on attack both games. He is winning in points and I must place hope in end game. But even if I don't survive this is great. Thanx for hosting.

[GWDWD]

Great quote from my opponent tonight:

I guess the definition of a newbie is everything one does offensively ends in disaster. So true!

[athkatla]

As I am a newbie with plenty of playing time on my hands, I would be grateful if I could be considered for any future competition, or put on the reserve list for this one, or whatever else can be arranged. :D

[deilthedog]

ive just ordered CM and should recieve it this week.
is this tournament still running and can i enter please?

[Alan]

The last 2 turns in both games have been painful for my opponent. At least it looked painful from my view. I consider it revenge for his caputuring my <edit> with a <edit>. :mad:

I have had no problem with the bocage. Hard to beat it for hiding my AT assests.

Edited because I wasn't thinking.

[ July 09, 2002, 07:50 AM: Message edited by: Alan ]

[Webs]

Alan, please edit your post to get rid of force composition information. There may be folks who haven't started playing one of the scenarios and any info could tip them off.

Yes, even a tiny hint could have an effect.

[Cpl Carrot]

Please Alan edit your post. Use XXXXXXXXX and YYYYYYY and ZZZZZZZ if need be - thats what they are there for :D

Cpl Carrot

[Cpl Carrot]

Athkatla and Deilthedog Send me the stuff I requested in the fisrt page of this thread and I can set you off playing one another.

Cpl Carrot

[Alan]

Doh! Sorry Cpl Carrot and Webs. I didn't mean to blab stuff. :( I was feeling some major relief after a couple of good turns. The beer had nothing to do with it.

It looks like it is shaping up to be a mad melee at the finish.

[GWDWD]

The Fellowship of the Newbie Tourney thread on page FOUR?! :eek: Unacceptable!

[Austrian Strategist]

Pawter, please answer my email! Thanks.

[Cpl Carrot]

Well I have some good news and some bad news. I guess you will be wanting the good news first so here goes:

The current standings for the groups are now on the web. Go HERE (http://homepages.slingshot.co.nz/~rjb109/) to view it in all its glory. Please bear in mind that it is a work in progress as I can only read so fast :D Please check that the scores are correct for your battles (for those who have finished)

Now the bad news: The end date for the first round has been pushed back until the 10 August to cater for the slow pokes :D and some unforseen problems.

Now some of you may have picked up that there are only 7 pairings in the Riders of the Mark group. Well to compensate the highest scoring loser from that group will also go through to make up the numbers. Nice arn't I? :D

[ July 14, 2002, 01:06 AM: Message edited by: Cpl Carrot ]

[Alan]

Is there any chance you can put who played what side in the standings?

[Ace Pilot]

Holy Cow! Check out the score SpaceHamster racked up! 189 points, including a shut out!

Hey, SpaceHamster! Have you got the ghost of Patton coaching you or what? Or maybe you've figured out how to reprogram all of your men into digital Audie Murphy's!

:D :D :D

Can't wait to hear those AARs.

Ace

[Cpl Carrot]

Originally posted by Alan:
Is there any chance you can put who played what side in the standings?Good idea. I will try to have it done by next weekend. Stupid RL ruins everything :D

[Alan]

How many of you guys are working on AARs?

[Webs]

I have two AARs done, but I'd prefer seeing anonymous ones. And we should wait until everyone is done, too. Oh, just a month to sit on my thumbs here....

[Alan]

What do you mean by anonymous?

I've got part of one finished.

[Webs]

I mean Carrot can post them without the writer's name, so that any sneak can't find hints as to a future opponent's style if he reads an AAR.

[Cpl Carrot]

Have no fear. (Well some is good). No AAR will be posted until all battles are complete. As for ananamous I will think on it but probably not. Two battles is not enough (IMHO) to understand someones playing style.

Webs I seem to have miss placed the results from your battle. Could you send it to me again

Cpl Carrot

[Alan]

I plan to obscure my tactics behind a wall of bad grammar and angst. To add to the deception I will only include pictures of my units being destroyed or captured. ;)

Cpl Carrot

What format do you want AARs in? I've been using MS Word.

Am I correct in thinking that the AARs for this round will be available after the round ends?

[Incognito]

Originally posted by Ace Pilot:

Hey, SpaceHamster! Have you got the ghost of Patton coaching you or what? Or maybe you've figured out how to reprogram all of your men into digital Audie Murphy's!

:D :D :D

Can't wait to hear those AARs.

AceYes I'm evil nercomanacer and I have trapped multple souls of succesfull generals(be aware Fion yuor reputation is growing
in scales that in one morning yuo might wake up in my crystal- ball :D )

Umm ,no just a little luck at beginning thats all. My opponent just "let it go".
Nothing to tell about.

And I really dont have any necromanatic powers they are just mumbo jumbo (mutters sumthing about "flesh chamber filling and moves away) :D

[0time]

Originally posted by SpaceHamster:
Umm ,no just a little luck at beginning thats all. My opponent just "let it go".
Nothing to tell about.He is being very nice.
I surrendered, very early and without compromise.
It became quite obvious that I had no business being in any tournament.

[ July 17, 2002, 07:28 PM: Message edited by: 0time ]

[Cpl Carrot]

Word is OK. Just make sure you save the file as an .rtf so any and all should be able to open it.

Nothing will be released until all battles in round one are complete or accounted for.

Cpl Carrot

[Cpl Carrot]

HADES Can you please email me or your partner urgently.

Thank you

Cpl Carrot

[Incognito]

Originally posted by 0time:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by SpaceHamster:
Umm ,no just a little luck at beginning thats all. My opponent just "let it go".
Nothing to tell about.He is being very nice.
I surrendered, very early and without compromise.
It became quite obvious that I had no business being in any tournament.</font>[/QUOTE]More is learn from spanking than cake walk!
Yuo learn as yuo go.
Next time just don't hit the alt-S ;)

Cheers
:cool:

[PK]

OOPs. Sorry Corp, I deleted my old PBEM files before you asked me to write an AAR so they may be a bit short and sweet with no pretty pictures. :rolleyes: Hope you don't mind.

I will ask my opponent if he still has any end files so I can work back useing the debris as memory cards. :D

[Cpl Carrot]

Can the first player in each team (of two) please email me a progress report stating the turn number they are up to in each battle.

Thank you

Cpl Carrot

[Alan]

Cpl Carrot

After we finish our battles can we trade passwords with our opponent?

[Cpl Carrot]

Webs can you send me your AAR's again. I got over zelous in my deleting of emails redface.gif

Cpl Carrot

[ July 21, 2002, 01:00 AM: Message edited by: Cpl Carrot ]

[Alan]

Bump

[smythe11]

cpl. carrot:
can new newbies still join the tournment?

[Incognito]

aww? Might I ask cpl carrot what those group names mean, I mean lol!
Uruk Hai, Riders of the Mark, Rangers of the North
sounds like HOBOGOBLIN hunt :D
Onward my elfs let's kill'em and drive'em out of our forest(and loot their bodies -that +4 longbow is main then) tongue.gif

[Alan]

It is onward fellow orcs dude, your in the Uruk-Hai. We ain't no pansy elves. :rolleyes:

[General Tacticus]

Originally posted by SpaceHamster:
aww? Might I ask cpl carrot what those group names mean, I mean lol!
Uruk Hai, Riders of the Mark, Rangers of the North
sounds like HOBOGOBLIN hunt :D
Onward my elfs let's kill'em and drive'em out of our forest(and loot their bodies -that +4 longbow is main then) tongue.gif This is just a stab in the dark...but could there possibly be a connection between "Fellowship of the Newbie" and "Rangers of the North". Probably not..... :rolleyes: :D BTW - are you a giant minature spacehamster, or just a regular one ??? ;) :D

Hey - Carrot - Any room for Newbies !!!!???? ;) :D

[ July 23, 2002, 11:23 PM: Message edited by: General Tacticus ]

[yarmaluk]

Cpl Carrot,

Not to nitpick, but could you possibly change my name from 'yamaluk' to 'yarmaluk' on the Uruk Hai page?

Thanks.

Having a blast, by the way. A little too much of one in some cases ...

[Cpl Carrot]

The names are from Lord of the Rings as is the title. I thought it was obvious

I was going to be The Newbie Strikes back but I couldn't decide on who would be the Ewoks :D smile.gif

Yarmaluk - no worries. I will try to fix it ASAP. Sorry

Cpl Carrot

Edited cos I can

[ July 24, 2002, 04:05 AM: Message edited by: Cpl Carrot ]

[SuperTed]

Originally posted by General Tacticus:
...BTW - are you a giant minature spacehamster, or just a regular one ??? ;) :D
Go for the eyes, Boo! :D

[Incognito]

Originally posted by SuperTed:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by General Tacticus:
...BTW - are you a giant minature spacehamster, or just a regular one ??? ;) :D
Go for the eyes, Boo! :D </font>[/QUOTE]No worries I have honestly earned my nic. I haven't stolen it from Boo. smile.gif
Althought I'm honored off Boo's actions.

Long live the Cosmic Rodents

Btw how stupid can I be (too much berzerking :confused: :D ?)
Lord of the rings ,sure the topic allready says it.

And if yuo ever arrange the "noob strikes back" i want to be Ewok! Why? You thought that Jedi knights are the best fighters -wrong tongue.gif !
It's Ewoks, becaus jedi's will eventually run out of batterys but stone spears will last! tongue.gif

[Cpl Carrot]

Just updated the website so check it out in all of its glory. :D If someones results are not there or I have spelt someones name wrong let me know.

And in breaking news <cue trumpet fanfare> Super Ted has indicated that he won't want the reins back for any CMBB Newbie Tourny so you are stuck with me. Sorry.

General Tacticus: You can be first to join the CMBB Newbie Tourny when I get around to it

Thats all I have to except (you guessed it) BUMP!

[ July 27, 2002, 12:45 AM: Message edited by: Cpl Carrot ]

[Jwirry]

Bump, because it is on page 3 now.

[Pzman]

Originally posted by Cpl Carrot:
Just updated the website so check it out in all of its glory. :D If someones results are not there or I have spelt someones name wrong let me know.

And in breaking news <cue trumpet fanfare> Super Ted has indicated that he won't want the reins back for any CMBB Newbie Tourny so you are stuck with me. Sorry.

General Tacticus: You can be first to join the CMBB Newbie Tourny when I get around to it

Thats all I have to except (you guessed it) BUMP!Hey Cpl Carrot, if needed, we can continue to work with you once, CMBB comes out as well.

Work on the battles for round two is going well. One issue, is that I will be going away next week, and will be for two weeks. So we may just finished them this week and send them to you Friday or Saturday, depends on when I leave.

[ July 29, 2002, 05:08 PM: Message edited by: Panzerman ]

[PanzerBoy]

Relieved to see that we have a little more time on round 1. My opponent and I have not been able to get through more than about 1 PBEM exchange per day due to time zones and work commitments. We're currently on turn 23 in both, and a right meat-grinder it's turning out to be...

[Munter]

*Bump* from page 3...

M

[Incognito]

If scenarios are finished and the majority of us is ready might we start early, i'm eager :cool:

(read: School is beginning next week and I need an excuse not to do my homework ;) )

[Alan]

It is almost the 10th. How is everyone doing?

[Munter]

We have finished the "Snow Warriors" with Former Jarhead at turn 22. Autosurrender saved his last Germans from complete annihilation.

In the "Stand of the Strong" we still have 3 turns left, but I hope the situation in the battle will not change much from now.

Great game, wonderful battles and a worthy opponent! I guess that'll sum it up for us.

M

[Cpl Carrot]

Good news and lots of bad news folks.

Good news first. Many people have finished their games and are chomping at the bit to continue. Well done

Bad news now. (1) the end date has been pushed back until the 20th August to allow serveral slow pokes to finish up their battles. This is the final extension I assure you.

(2) I have been either sick (flu) or run off my feet to update the website. I hope (fingers, toes, eyes etc crossed) to be able to update it this week end

That is all.

[Traject0ry]

Nice homepage

;)

-T

[PanzerBoy]

Could (username) Spence email me urgently please. We need to get through our last few turns in time for the final, inextensible date of Aug. 20th.

[Cpl Carrot]

Spence Email me or your partner urgently

[Cpl Carrot]

Finally got around to updating the website. My apoligies to all. Time is ticking, ticking into the future.....

[Incognito]

Since theres few days for another roud to start...would now be a good time for some AARs? :cool:

[Len]

Here's my AAR for snow warriors -
I misread the briefing, thought the town would be empty, and went screaming in, only to be massacred by the waiting American forces.
I lost, by the way.............lol
Len

[Cpl Carrot]

Can SpazManOught please email me.

I am waiting on the second round battles, which I hope to have by the weekend. Any slow pokes can have till then. NOTE this is not an extension :)

[Pzman]

I will send them off tonight or tomorrow, so be ready.

[Cpl Carrot]

I have recieved the battles from Panzerman. When I get some free time (read weekend) I will post them out to the successfull candidates

That is all

Cpl Carrot

[GWDWD]

Originally posted by Cpl Carrot:
When I get some free time (read weekend) I will post them out to the successfull candidates
Well, that implies that those of us who participated in the tournament but (ahem) did not advance were unsuccessful. The politically correct term, sir, is “CM-challenged”. ;)

Gooooo, Lurkur! Heil und Sieg!

Guy

[Cpl Carrot]

OK I have started a thread Here (http://www.battlefront.com/cgi-bin/bbs/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=002014) where you guys (and girls I suppose smile.gif ) can talk to your hearts content about the two battles you've played.

If anyone has any AAR's feel free to send them to me and I will host them for viewing.

PLEASE check that I have your correct scores entered into the website as this is what I will be going on when I organise the next round.

You will note that two sections are rather short on numbers. In order to make up the numbers again I will be taking the the hightest scoring losers and some other nice people and using them. (Make sense?)

If something is wrong email immediately as once I send out the battles it will be too late.

That is all

Cpl Carrot

[Cpl Carrot]

Ok here are the pairings as the scores stand:

Riders of the Mark

Shades vs Joe Cz
Lurker vs Packman
Japper vs Munter
And a surprise
GWDWD vs Rhudat

The Uruk-Hai

DL vs Ace Pilot
PK vs SkeeterBee
Letar vs SpaceHamster
Alan vs Alsatian

Ranger of the North

Killgore vs Stormin Norman
Sgt Shultz vs Webs
Len vs Panzerboy
Woffers vs Yarmaluk

Now these are not all set in stone - you have until Manday to dispute the scores (bear in mind it is Friday night now)

That is all Cpl Carrot

[ August 25, 2002, 05:39 PM: Message edited by: Cpl Carrot ]

[Lurkur]

What?! GWDWD is back!? I thought I killed him off. Next time I'll bring the wooden stakes AND the silver bullets...

Lurk

[GWDWD]

Originally posted by Lurkur:
What?! GWDWD is back!? I thought I killed him off. Next time I'll bring the wooden stakes AND the silver bullets...

LurkHehe... Good one, Lurk.

No no no, it takes fire to kill me off, my friend. If you and the rest of the villagers want to light some torches to do the job, may I suggest using one or more of your flaming Stuarts from our current battle. tongue.gif ;)

Guy Who Won't Die

[Len]

Hey!!........."Lenwick v Car".
Is that ME (lenwuk)?
Have I been raised from the dead?
Oh Joy!................ smile.gif

[Cpl Carrot]

Yes Len it is you. I guess I have the wrong name. will fix that.

And remember - no one dies

[Woofers]

Finally! I KNEW that one day I'd be rewarded for being a loser.

[yarmaluk]

I see that I am finally what I have always aspired to be - a good loser.

I have learned some lessons from round one, and I believe I have identified the bits of the game I need to work on.

1. My infantry tactics need a little work.
2. My artillery tactics need a little work.
3. My armor tactics need a little work.
4. My combined arms tactics need a little work.

Other than those four minor flaws my game is excellent, so watch out.

[Woofers]

Hey yarmaluk,

I see we're fighting each other in the next round. May the best (or worst) loser win (or lose).

[Patgod]

i would like to thank Alsatian for a very good game, and for some good conversation inbetween turns. if you would like a go in CMBB you are on my list of excellent people to pbem with.

[0time]

Originally posted by Cpl Carrot:
And remember - no one diesOh really?

[Wallybob]

Ok, count me in on this thing. Newbie to human opponents, but decided to stop lurking on the group.

[Webs]

Any info inbound?

[Cpl Carrot]

Battles for the second round have been sent out. Any problems, email me immediately.

Cpl Carrot

[Alan]

Cpl Carrot,

It works fine. Pay no attention to my babbling.

End Transmission.

[ August 27, 2002, 07:04 PM: Message edited by: Alan ]

[Alan]

I know the CMBB demo is out but I shouldn't have to bump this from PAGE 5!

[Len]

Cpl Carrot, what's the end date for the second round of battles? Have I just missed seeing it?
Len

[Cpl Carrot]

I have not set a date. Last time I did (and a resonable one IMHO) and half the people were not even close to finsihing games. So how about I say Nov 1 and ignore it :D

[Stormin Norman]

Hey,

Do I get a extra special prize for getting into round2 with the lowest score and almost the lowest score possible, 102 pts?

[Incognito]

[Cpl Carrot u don't wanna read this]

Letar haven't heard of u during the weekend at all where are u? :confused:

[/Cpl Carrot u don't wanna read this]
:D

So how's it going with everyone else?

Ok by now.

[ September 04, 2002, 07:14 AM: Message edited by: SpaceHamster ]

[Len]

SpaceHamster, I like your new UBB code..let ME try.......
[Panzerboy Ignore]I've got no troops in those woods at all - that last 200 yards of open ground is perfectly safe.... smile.gif [/Panzerboy Ignore]

Yeah, RIGHT..................lol

[Len]

Stormin Norman - Yeah, you'll probably get your ass handed to you in this round - much the same as me.........lol

[Kilgore]

Originally posted by Len:
Stormin Norman - Yeah, you'll probably get your ass handed to you in this round..I wouldn't put any money on it if I were you Len. smile.gif

[Alan]

Alsatian and I are churning out turns at a pretty good pace. We are up to turn 17 and 14. How is everyone else doing?

[Len]

Alan, Panzerboy & I (Len) -
SwordPoint 12/40
Troubling Times 13/30

[Ace Pilot]

DL and I:

Sword Point: 6/40
Troubling Times: 7/30

Can we expect any more AARs from the first round?

[Cpl Carrot]

I only received one set (from Webs) and he did not want it released, so I have nothing to put up (otherwise I would have smile.gif )

Cpl Carrot

[PanzerBoy]

Urgent message for Len. My evil IBM hard drive looks like it just corrupted my registry, which is why you've had nothing from me this weekend till I could get back to work (Windows won't boot). Luckily, I could dual boot into Linux and I've managed to back up important data (like CMBO turns and my financial history lol). I'll need a few days to get things sorted out, but can you email me at work (michael@intrinsica.co.uk) so that I have your email address. I'll probably have to order a new drive, 'cos even if I sort this it'll just screw me again in a week. :-(

[GWDWD]

A bump from the nether regions of the board.

Sword Point: 24/40
Troubling Times: 23/30

Guy

[Cpl Carrot]

Packman your mailbox might be full as Lurkers emails are bouncing back to him. Can you look into this please.

And bump back to the top - not that it has far to go :D

Cpl Carrot

[Ace Pilot]

Just wanted everyone to know that I received CMBB today and BEFORE installing it, I checked to see if I had any tournament PBEM emails. How's that for dedication to the tournament? :D

By the by:
Sword - 18/40
Times - 19/30

Ace

[Cpl Carrot]

Well no one should be playing it until after I get. I mean really! :D

[Alan]

Too late I've got CMBB and I'm playing it. It was a close thing too. My wife though she would hide it and give it to me as a Christmas present. Luck for me she hid the package for my 401K plan.

My opponent is house hunting and moving. I'm busy coaching 2 soccer teams and being a league commissioner. He is dealing with the distractions better than me and has taken avantage of some mental lapses.

[Len]

Michael (Panzerboy), haven't heard from you in a while - is your Windows installation still screwed?

Len

[PanzerBoy]

Ahhh! Back online at last! And my wife just had a baby! Len - did you get my email last night? If you send me the latest turns we can get going again. Sorry I've been disconcertingly quiet. The baby is in a bit more of a routine now, so I've had the chance to sit down by the computer...

[Len]

Hi Michael, I emailed the turns to you at 21:00 on Sunday evening - not received them yet?
I note that your profile on this board doesn't have an email address - is there a problem?

Regards, Len

[ October 01, 2002, 03:34 PM: Message edited by: Len ]

[PanzerBoy]

Len, can you try again at michael.harrington@bigfoot.com, but copy the email to prunehead@ntlworld.com and bumhat@hotmail.com. The bigfoot address is a redirection service (which might be up the whiz) but I've set up the web-based Hotmail account so that if it's another problem, we can communicate anyway. I noticed that Cpl. Carrot mentioned the end of October to get the turns done, so I think despite the disruption we should easily be able to resolve our turns.

[Len]

Michael,
sent to all addresses at 7:40pm BST.
Regards, Len

[PanzerBoy]

OK. Got your turns this time. No need to use Hotmail by the looks of things. No idea what happened to the other email.

[Ace Pilot]

Anyone finished a scenario yet? We're getting close on Troubling Times (Turn 27), but Swordpoint has a bit to go (and it's not looking that great for the Brits - I feel like the scenario designers had it in for the Tommies on this one ;) )

Ace

[JoeCz]

Shades and me are on Turn 20 of each and right now the victory meters are relatively close in each. Can't post more until everyone has wrapped up.

Joe

[Incognito]

That's it I officially hate bidges!
I also hate tankers that play ring games rather than go in offence, whatta pussies!

Btw people stay off Letar ,he's evil. Bloody drow elf teasing helpless little half-orc-hamster.

Oh and we'r getting in the end but much is still to go now plz any talented bard over there write aars
smile.gif

[Cpl Carrot]

Space Hamster - I see if I can convice Volo to give you a hand. However the last I saw him he was a little drunk in a tavern somewhere on the Sword Coast ;)

[Cpl Carrot]

I have finally updated the website so please check it out and tell me whats wrong with it.

Cpl Carrot

[Incognito]

Hey ,surry ,but why loser don't play on round2 against other whom have lost?

In other words:
So ,only victorious continue to next round :( :confused:
Just asking becos that when I loos i would still like to keep fighting on tournament for lower rankings

Clear enought? I'm sorry ,but I just suck at writing. ON every test teachers keep reminding me to pratice on essays and writing ,cos me sentences are so hmm...incomprehensive
:(

[ October 13, 2002, 06:28 AM: Message edited by: SpaceHamster ]

[Cpl Carrot]

Sorry, but can you run that by me again?

[GWDWD]

Rhudat and I have been finished for a week or so. I think he already emailed you the info.

Please please please please gimme another shot at Lurkur in the next round... please?! ;)

Guy

[Cpl Carrot]

You will have to talk to Packman about that. He's the one in control of Lurkers fate, or maybe its the other way round? :D

Oh and can you send me your scores GWDWD. I lost them redface.gif

[ October 12, 2002, 08:08 PM: Message edited by: Cpl Carrot ]

[Alsatian]

Alan and I are on turn 28 in both scenarios. I'm guessing we're on pace to finish within the week. Both Sword Point and Troubling Times are too close to call.

[Webs]

Me and Schultz are on turn 27 of Troubling Times and around turn 22 of Sword Point.

Without revealing anything, I want to know: is there anyone playing the Brits in Sword Point who hasn't been mashed to bits?

[Alan]

Alsatain hasn't been mashed yet. He pulled a pretty good stunt to get across the bridge.

I screwed up in TT, on turn 24 I realized it is only a 30 turn game.

Despite what he said above Alsatain is in firm control of all but one of the VLs. He has made much better use of his reinforcements in Sword Point.

[Japper]

Munter and me had quite a slow start. We're on turn 13 in TT and 14 in SP. But really catching up now by sending multiple turns a day.

Not much to say about who's winning for now, both battles are just really starting! smile.gif smile.gif

[Ace Pilot]

DL and I finished Times. We are on turn 29 of Sword Point, and yes, I would agree that it doesn’t look good for my poor Brits.

Just curious – did everyone get Axis in one scenario and Allies in the other? I just noticed such a set up makes a player either a defender in both scenarios or an attacker in both scenarios.

[Cpl Carrot]

My intention was to have people play one game each using axis and allied equipment. I do not look at the battles much (plan to play them blind with people). Since the battles are balanced, it should not matter whether you are defending or attacking. That being said, if anyone feels unfairly treated then let me know.

Cpl Carrot

[Ace Pilot]

DL and I finished our second and final scenario. Anyone else close to finishing? More importantly, any estimates on when everyone will finish? I'd like to discuss the two scenarios as soon as possible.

Ace

[Len]

Panzerboy and I are on turn26 of Troubling Times and turn25 of Sword Point.
Len

[Webs]

Schultz and I just finished Troubling Times and we're on turn 24 or so of Sword Point. I won Troubling Times as Germans, but for some reason, the game did not ward me my rear objective flag. I had no troops camping there, but it was clearly within my control. I think that cost me 15 points or so. Oh, well.

[SkeeterBee]

PK and I finished both scenerios a couple of weeks ago. I just squeaked by him in the points totals. I played the Germans in Troubling Times and held him at the crossroads and the Brits in Sword Point. I held him off long enough in SP that he ran out of turns, but if he'd had a couple more he would've rolled right through me. By the way, I only lost one vehicle on the bridge. smile.gif

[Lurkur]

Packman and I finished our games, and GWDWD might now have a second shot at me, but I say make him wait! If we are both able to win the next round then will have a grudge match with all the splendor and drama of ...Rocky 2?

Now I have a bad taste in my mouth. I'm hoping to do an AAR of these fights and hear when the tournament is over how/what you other guys did.

Lurk

[Cpl Carrot]

Just a quick note to say that I am not accepting any more enrolments for this tournament. The tourny has nearly finsihed the second round and as such no new players are needed

That is all

Cpl Carrot

[Alsatian]

Alan and I just finished are scenarios. Axis Minor Victory in Troubling Times, and Allied Minor Victory in Sword Point.

I really enjoyed the premise, map, and forces in Sword Point. I thought Troubling Times was too straight forward; at least in that it didn't offer the German player much by way of strategic choices.

Looking forward to hearing some AARs.

[Alan]

I don't think Sword Point was close to an Allied Minor Victory. I only had one unit left that was useful and no flags. I was soundly beaten. I didn't have a good plan on what to do once Alsatian made it across the bridge. Once that happened I never had a chance.

[Len]

Alsatain hasn't been mashed yet. He pulled a pretty good stunt to get across the bridge I can't wait to hear what the "stunt" was.
I (mostly) managed in a straightforward way.

Len

[Alsatian]

Any update on this round's progress? Any wild stabs at when the next round might get started?

Or in other words...

*BUMP*

[Munter]

I and Japper have just got finished. Germany won in both battles.

Munter

[Japper]

Onely Munter was the better German ;) tongue.gif :D

Japper

[Cpl Carrot]

Impatient lot arn't you. Give me till the weekend to find everyones scores (they are here somewhere) and I will post the new draw. The next round should not be too far off.

Cpl Carrot

EDIT: OK I have found scores following players:

GWDWD
Rhudat
Lurker
Packman
Alsatian
Alan

If you have finished a battle and your name is not above please send me another email with the score (no files please)

Thanks and sorry

[ November 06, 2002, 06:08 AM: Message edited by: Cpl Carrot ]

[Webs]

Sgt. Schultz and I finished Troubling and are still in the middle of Sword. Sword is slow because I had to take some real-life travel days and his computer is on the fritz and in the shop.

I won Troubling, but I don't remember the exact score - something like 54-38. I have it at home (I'm away until Sunday).

Aside from my occasional whining about the Sword Point scenario (from the Allied point of view), we're having fun. smile.gif